deep fandom thoughts with spoilers
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Okay, so have been thinking about the first Narnia movie as I've listened to the soundtrack, and I keep getting more and more annoyed at the way they fucked up with Mr. Tumnus. Listening to 'A Narnia Lullaby' I keep remembering the way the cool CGI showed us Aslan in the fireplace, and the way Mr. Tumnus seemed to find his conscience after that. Okay. That's not real conscience if you are intimidated into doing the right thing!
It really, really pisses me off, because it implies that this character would have just sold his new friend to the White Witch if he hadn't had the reminder of the god like creature of Aslan being there to punish him for his sins.
*grr*
Er... Moving on.
I also kept thinking about Doctor Who and especially the companions they've showed us these recent years. Like...
From the very first moment they show us Rose, we see a character who's young, someone's daughter, someone's girlfriend, works in a shop, likes chips and is headstrong. She becomes the Doctor's companion and they travel the universe in the Tardis. That's about the definition of Rose (unless you want to add that she becomes dear to the Doctor, which I'm sure at least one person reading this will insist on).
Okay. Then we have Martha, who is a part of a crazy family, who works in a hospital, who is headstrong and who becomes the Doctor's companion and they travel the universe in the Tardis. But the definition of Martha is not a mixture of that (or that and the fact that she falls in love with the Doctor).
The way they, some of the fans, and even the character itself define her is 'the one who is not Rose'.
I really hope that was intentional from the authors, because it's a grate way of showing a character with flaws. Especially since the Doctor does state things about Rose now and then and even kind of compares his companions with each other (just look at the Shakespeare ep with the 'if Rose were here she'd know what to do' implying that Martha has no clue) but it's Martha who seems to carry on with the weird grudge.
Yeah, the third series would have probably made the fandom bitch and whine about the new companion anyway (lalala... just remember the wank started before Smith and Jones...), but with the characterization of Martha, it was certainly easier to keep going with the kerfuffle.
As it is kind of easy to say bye bye to her as the constant companion.
Though I would have liked to see Jack as a permanent part ofthe Doctor's bed the Tardis crew... never mind...
Not that I mean Martha wasn't special and no, I don't dislike her. And no, I don't dislike Rose either.
:P
Actually, I also like both Star Trek and Star Wars, Babylon 5 and Star Trek DS9, Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter and I adore both cauliflower and broccoli. Sue me.
Guh, it's really too late for deep thoughts and I'm not really into meta anyway. But have been working on the stuff my beta sent me and needed a break. :D A good rant is always better than stuffing my face... Well, at least it's better for my health...
Okay, so have been thinking about the first Narnia movie as I've listened to the soundtrack, and I keep getting more and more annoyed at the way they fucked up with Mr. Tumnus. Listening to 'A Narnia Lullaby' I keep remembering the way the cool CGI showed us Aslan in the fireplace, and the way Mr. Tumnus seemed to find his conscience after that. Okay. That's not real conscience if you are intimidated into doing the right thing!
It really, really pisses me off, because it implies that this character would have just sold his new friend to the White Witch if he hadn't had the reminder of the god like creature of Aslan being there to punish him for his sins.
*grr*
Er... Moving on.
I also kept thinking about Doctor Who and especially the companions they've showed us these recent years. Like...
From the very first moment they show us Rose, we see a character who's young, someone's daughter, someone's girlfriend, works in a shop, likes chips and is headstrong. She becomes the Doctor's companion and they travel the universe in the Tardis. That's about the definition of Rose (unless you want to add that she becomes dear to the Doctor, which I'm sure at least one person reading this will insist on).
Okay. Then we have Martha, who is a part of a crazy family, who works in a hospital, who is headstrong and who becomes the Doctor's companion and they travel the universe in the Tardis. But the definition of Martha is not a mixture of that (or that and the fact that she falls in love with the Doctor).
The way they, some of the fans, and even the character itself define her is 'the one who is not Rose'.
I really hope that was intentional from the authors, because it's a grate way of showing a character with flaws. Especially since the Doctor does state things about Rose now and then and even kind of compares his companions with each other (just look at the Shakespeare ep with the 'if Rose were here she'd know what to do' implying that Martha has no clue) but it's Martha who seems to carry on with the weird grudge.
Yeah, the third series would have probably made the fandom bitch and whine about the new companion anyway (lalala... just remember the wank started before Smith and Jones...), but with the characterization of Martha, it was certainly easier to keep going with the kerfuffle.
As it is kind of easy to say bye bye to her as the constant companion.
Though I would have liked to see Jack as a permanent part of
Not that I mean Martha wasn't special and no, I don't dislike her. And no, I don't dislike Rose either.
:P
Actually, I also like both Star Trek and Star Wars, Babylon 5 and Star Trek DS9, Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter and I adore both cauliflower and broccoli. Sue me.
Guh, it's really too late for deep thoughts and I'm not really into meta anyway. But have been working on the stuff my beta sent me and needed a break. :D A good rant is always better than stuffing my face... Well, at least it's better for my health...
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Date: 2007-07-02 11:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-07-02 11:27 pm (UTC)This is the time for whining, though. All the shows have gone to the land of break and we're left with the good old reruns and people tend to turn to meta when they can look back on the whole season of whatever they've been watching. Also, it's countdown to the new Potter book, so no wonder everyone's all weirded. /bitch
Hey, I like your navel! *pokes at your navel* And I have no margaritas either! Woe! Woe! There were no strawberries either.
*blah*