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[sua_lay]

This is actually something I ranted about in someone else's LJ, but decided to post it here as well, since I usually have nothing in depth and analytical to say about anything.



So.... The fandom is now going meep about McShep and the way it seems to be falling apart.

OMGs! Breathe!

I have to wonder just how many of people's fears about SGA plotlines are based on SG-1 and the way the dynamics went there. From the delightful Jack-Daniel friendship and bickering (yeah, yeah their love was so pure and so on) to the point where those two didn't seem to stand each other's presence. So very sad and pointless.

The resent developments in SGA do seem.... weird somehow. I don't know if it was because of the whole easy friendship the characters showed from the start. Somewhere on the line, everything became strained, and either they're actually going somewhere with all this, or maybe one of the writers realized that McKay and Sheppard have too much chemistry together and had a panic attack.

For a long time, it did seem like Sheppard was fortifying his closet, and our genious with absolutely no people skills had no idea what was going on. Now I have to wonder....

Anyway, about Trinity, I actually liked the way Sheppard couldn't deal with any of the issues with reason or professionalism. His belief in Rodney was completely a gut thing, and then when he realized he'd been wrong, of course it was a blow. On his trust but also on his ego. I like it when people don't act rationally, because, sadly, that's the way we usually operate. Especially if we have feelings invested on stuff.

I just hope people won't start writing stupid h/c where Sheppard suddenly realizes he's been so nasty to Rodney and how Rodney really is cool and stuff and then we see total OOC behaviour before the inevitable bathing and calling the chief scientist 'sweetheart' in the lab....

*headdesk*



I refuse to go into a panic quite yet. Usually, I jump ship when the fandom seems to go downhill (what do you mean I haven't watched the last seasons of Angel, Xfiles, SG-1, the West Wing....) and I don't feel like leaving SGA just yet.

:P

Comments

[omega-h.livejournal.com]

Just commenting that I found the yarn!

[sua-lay.livejournal.com]

Excellent!

*dances*

[emmuzka.livejournal.com]

I think that people are stressing too much over the McKay/Sheppard relationship development after 206. Let's just wait a few weeks to see what will happen. Probably more important to the big plot was that McKay had to fail, and spectacularly at that. The trust issue just played nice with the fall of the god-complex. Maybe the writers felt like the relationship was build too fast too strong (maybe they feared that Atlantis would be a one-season show and there wouldn't be time to build relationships slower?) and they had coll it off.

[sua-lay.livejournal.com]

You know, I love angsty and bumpy rides relationship -wise. It's not memorable if it's just the lovey dovey let me hold your hand thing.

That's why it's actually nice to see real emotional issues in a series, instead of everything just being brushed off. Yeah, my inner 13 years old wants to have John and Rodney happy together forever without any owwies, but we all know the probability of that happening.

And then it would be boring, and I'd want to slash those two about as much as Jim and Blair who were cute but so boring because they were so married.

:D

I totally agree with the pacing of the storylines. Seems to me that everything's like that these days. Networks fear cancellation so much that they almost ruin good ideas by rushing through them.

Am still not giving up hope on SGA though...

[ainaria.livejournal.com]

So.... The fandom is now going meep about McShep and the way it seems to be falling apart.

I have absolutely no clue of what you're saying. Who is freaking out over McShep? Because of Trinity? Where the hell have you seen that? I haven't.

Okay, I'm sorry, but I'm just completely baffled. They have a bit of angst on the show and now some people are not liking it? I for one, liked it. It was realistic. Shit like that happen all the time, especially in the situation they are in.

And woman, what the fuck are you talking about 'jump ship'? Seriously, I'm gonna kick your ass if you keep talking like that. One little bit of angst and you of all people are freaking? I must of have missed something. How are things going downhill on SGA? They're not, they're just... diffirent. But definitely not downhill.

/rant.
:D

[sua-lay.livejournal.com]

Oh honey, you're so cute when you're angry.

:P

There's been some very angry people in SGA fandom making comments about how Sheppard has been treating Rodney So Wrong! How he Should Apologize and Crawl. How Sheppard has been allowed all sorts of irrational things and no one admonishes him and now everyone is wronging Rodney.

Yeah, to some, Trinity is like a red cloth, screaming betrayal and stuff.

And it is annoying because it's a flashback to SG-1, with all that nice buddy things that totally disintegrated. We had a team and we had guys who managed to be friends inside a team and then we had everyone going to different directions and Jack loving Sam. Would hate to see that happening in SGA.

My opinion is that there's been a lot of tension between Rodney and John lately, and sadly, some of it may be because TPTB are freaking out because of the chemistry.

I also think that you can't have a good series or a fandom without the tension. Years from now we'll watch back at this and then go all meep about good old times when they built something. At least I hope so.

:D

Anyway, the whole jumping the ship talk is because there are fans who are practically demanding a lynching and stuff. They are fans who for some reason want to be totally loyal to one character, and now see that character wronged. I can usually deal with even my fav guy being dissed (heh, Wesley in Angel season 3 and 4 anyone?) but when the characters change into something I can't recognize anymore, I leave. It's better to have a good memory about a fandom than to have it go on and cringe whenever you see the latest eps.

We're nowhere near that spot in SGA! Don't worry.

[ainaria.livejournal.com]

Sweety, I'm cute all the time.

I haven't had a run in with these angry people. I think we hang around in different lj's. :D Anyway, I find that way of thinking very annoying. It's like to some people everything's black and white and it's just so stupid, because it's so very childish. And I don't have high tolerance for either.

I don't believe that tptb have a problem with john and rodney's chemistry. That wouldn't be very smart now, would it? I think that a big part of why people are loving the show so much, is becase of John and Rodney's chemistry. Why would tptb try to change that? They get more dough and we get slashy goodness. It's a win-win situation. :)
No, yeah. Maybe they want to tone something down, I don't know. But I don't see the tension between our fave guys as a problem. I think that they're going somewhere with this. And for god sakes, Trinity was sooo slashy, all that looking in each other's eyes and stuff. I don't see anything to be worried about.

And I don't see characters change. Rodney was very Rodney: Arrogant and egoistic. It's when they use him as a comic relief, I worry. But defintely not over a bit of angst. And John? He was very supportive and a friend to Rodney. And then he was being dissapointed, of course he's angry. But he smirked when he said that line about it might take some time. I see it as a positive sign. Like he can't be mad at Rodney for too long, cos he knows Rodney.

So, in conclusion, I don't worry. I like it. I like the show.

[lyr]

Weird. I adored "Trinity". In fact, it was the first episode this season that I really got into. Up until "Trinity", there was that odd and seemingly sourceless strain between McKay and Sheppard. It bothered me, especially after their affectionate bickering and tacit mutual respect from the first season. Sure, "Trinity" shows tension between them at the end, but it isn't baseless. In fact, the tension is there precisely because their relationship is so important to both of them. And yes, the ep reveals character flaws on both sides, but people without flaws just aren't very real or very interesting to me.

I must not have been paying much attention to the discussion on this, because I didn't know that there was so much meepage. And gah, I hope I miss any scary OOC h/c about this, because that would so ruin the episode for me. Personally, I thought it was pure slashy gold just the way it was.

[allaire.livejournal.com]

Hey, I'm already out of my Little Corner of Impeding Doom! Give me more episodes like this one, and I'll stop my dire mutterings. Really.

*eg*